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I recently discovered this site: metahistory.org by John Lash. Very [...]


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I recently discovered this site: metahistory.org by John Lash. Very interesting material concerning Gnosticism and what damage the three abrahamic religions have done to the human species.
Trees
Yes. I was particularly interested in an article about the origin of the Gnostics which appears on Lash's site. Have you seen that? He says there were two branches of the original Gnostics. Both started someplace north of Lake Urmia in what must be the foothills of the Himalayas or perhaps the steppes leading up to the foothills. Lash says one branch of the original Gnostics became the Magi, teaching and getting involved in mundane progress like government, agriculture, finance, etc. The other, he says was concerned more with esoteric matters. I am currently reading several books by Laurence Gardner tracing the history of the Grail line and the Illuminati. It is confusing that the Illuminati seem to include Mary Magdalene, the Cathars, as well as the Rothschilds, the Pope,etc. I am wondering if that split in the Gnostics created the split in the illuminati...or am I confused? Lash does not elaborate in his article. Do you or anyone else have thought on this?
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 01:45:39
[deleted user]
I haven't elaborated this matter so much but I've also read about the split of which the Illuminati emerged. But I'm confused that you said they also seem to include Mary Magdalene and the Cathars
. I'm just currently learning more. Can you please provide me the link to the article about the origin of the Gnostics on Lash's site?
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 10:04:13
Trees
I believe this is the article: http://metahistory.org/gnostiq… I would enjou rereading itand discussing it with you and anyone wlse who is interested. The idea that the Grail bloodline including Mary Magdalene is part of the Illuminati is something I am encountering as I read Sir Laurence Gardner. I am now in the middle of his book, GENESIS OF THE GRAIL KINGS but encountered the idea that Mary Magdalene was part of an ancient lineage which is the Illuminati in his book, REALM OF THE RING LORDS. I'd love to discuss because maybe I got it wrong. Have you ever seen that graphic of a big pyramid of the Illuminati which includes the Satanists on one side and the Ascended Masters on the other side of the pyramid? Hmmm. I can't find the one that showed the Ascended Masters right under the Great White Brotherhood; I think Simon Parkes showed it in one of his videos about the Illuminati. Here is one that at least shows the GW Brotherhood, upper right near pinnacle: http://illuminati-news.com/ill…

Tuesday 12 January 2016, 16:35:36
Trees
I believe this is the article: http://metahistory.org/gnostiq… I would enjou rereading itand discussing it with you and anyone wlse who is interested. The idea that the Grail bloodline including Mary Magdalene is part of the Illuminati is something I am encountering as I read Sir Laurence Gardner. I am now in the middle of his book, GENESIS OF THE GRAIL KINGS but encountered the idea that Mary Magdalene was part of an ancient lineage which is the Illuminati in his book, REALM OF THE RING LORDS. I'd love to discuss because maybe I got it wrong. Have you ever seen that graphic of a big pyramid of the Illuminati which includes the Satanists on one side and the Ascended Masters on the other side of the pyramid? Hmmm. I can't find the one that showed the Ascended Masters right under the Great White Brotherhood; I think Simon Parkes showed it in one of his videos about the Illuminati. Here is one that at least shows the GW Brotherhood, upper right near pinnacle: http://illuminati-news.com/ill…
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 16:35:36
Trees
I believe this is the article: http://metahistory.org/gnostiq… I would enjou rereading itand discussing it with you and anyone wlse who is interested. The idea that the Grail bloodline including Mary Magdalene is part of the Illuminati is something I am encountering as I read Sir Laurence Gardner. I am now in the middle of his book, GENESIS OF THE GRAIL KINGS but encountered the idea that Mary Magdalene was part of an ancient lineage which is the Illuminati in his book, REALM OF THE RING LORDS. I'd love to discuss because maybe I got it wrong. Have you ever seen that graphic of a big pyramid of the Illuminati which includes the Satanists on one side and the Ascended Masters on the other side of the pyramid? Hmmm. I can't find the one that showed the Ascended Masters right under the Great White Brotherhood; I think Simon Parkes showed it in one of his videos about the Illuminati. Here is one that at least shows the GW Brotherhood, upper right near pinnacle: http://illuminati-news.com/ill…


Tuesday 12 January 2016, 16:35:36
Trees
That pyramid freaked me out until it came to me what I have been learning all along. We are in the school of duality. This is our initiation into full awareness. Of course the GWB is on the same pyramid as the bad guys. Good and evil=duality=
our lessons here. It still does freak me out to think of dear Mary as Illuminati. I am reading along win Sir Laurence and we shall see where he goes!
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 16:39:04
[deleted user]
Now I have read it: He wrote that the Gnostics are a "defection" of the Magi and that the remaining rest of the Magi can be considered as the Illuminati, not that the Magi developed from the Gnostics. He also wrote that the Magi/Illuminati were/are involved in statescraft/social engineering/theocracy while the Gnostics involved in shamanism, teaching, enlightenement and guidance and were totally againist the things the Magi/ Illuminati were/are involved in. He also wrote that the Gnostics were totally againist the belief that good and evil come from the same source like it is part of the three abrahamic religions and that they don't speak about evil but about error. Do you believe that good and evil come from the same source?
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 18:29:34
starfall
They both come from a polarisation. The obscene spectral outreach. A detrimentally 'good' conviction is as destructive as a detrimentally 'bad' one. This is the harmonic 'key' to balance and inner-standing the power of duality. We are all capable of both good and evil, for without the beauty of a polished stone, a destructive sword would have no edge. What is this source that is spoken of? It is everything and nothing, whether a positive or negative supposition. The Aether? Life-force? Water? Or all of the above. We don't need to innerstand the complexity of origin, we have already given our Self the power to navigate. Our Compas-sion steers the course and the percept-ions may be navigation tools or obstacles. All is in the eye of the be-holder. Esoteric mumbo-jumbo they say, as they climb back into the cage.
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 19:20:55
[deleted user]
And what do you say about the great injustice in the world? You you call it imbalance?
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 20:17:25
Trees
Dear Benjamin, thank you for researching the Lash article! Yes, now Mmr. Lash's thought is clearer. When I read I use what you might call the "witness of the spirit" to evaluate thoughts. I think I am talking about the Compass which you mention, Starfall. Starfall, I love your thoughts! The I Ching, as translated by Carol K. Anthony, states that evil is a result of misunderstanding. I like that. Benjamin, I posted this earlier today somewhere else but I like it and it fits here too! In these posts some things get buried so here it is again:
As I consider the wonder of the internet, I hear many many voices of all kinds. I hear angry disappointed voices of people realizing that things are not as they could be, I hear warriors and old CIA guys who once fought for an ideal of America and still fight for an ideal of freedom, I hear the whole community of alien contact people sharing ideas and stories, I hear channelers sharing gems of light, I hear journeyers with plants sharing mysteries...so many. Each group seems to have its theories, its insights, its blocks, and even has internecine wars among its members. Just like me! I see it all as a wonder, as the human collective awareness waking up by communicating its dissonant parts. If we include the drama of the bad guys in this we realize that they are the stimulus which is waking us and they too are part of the diverse human consciousness waking up by playing their part. Sorry there has to be so much bloodshed and suffering; we can honor the suffering ones with our gratitude for it is partly by their suffering that we are taking notice and we are waking up. Humanity is truly one. The accounts of the Reptilians, the Mantids, the Lyrans, the Annunaki-- I have no reason to doubt them. And I see in the stories a casting of the human psyche on a larger playing field. Looking at all of this I am filled with gratitude for this opportunity to wake up. Blessings to all!
Thank you, Benjamin! http://haruspruce.com/httpdocs…
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 20:59:03
[deleted user]
I don't think that gratitude towards those who suffer for others to wake up as you said is a great help for them.
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 21:13:47
Trees
Yes, we want to do more, don't we?
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 21:21:25
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 21:27:29
Trees
Yes. Great question.
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 21:40:12
starfall
Of course, you are right Benjamin. Nor is your personal suffering a great help to them. Less is it a hindrance, unless they are somehow dependent on your survival. You want to save them from harm? Don't harm them. You want others not to harm them? Don't encourage others to harm them. You want to prevent others from harming them? Be Superman. If you were Superman you could stop them. You could stop all of the things you perceive to be injustices. You could create a world of goodness. But, and this is the burden of externalising power, how do you anticipate an injustice? How do you prevent the inception of an injustice? Sanitise cognition? Thought-control doctrine? We, as a collective of human sentience, could eradicate perpetrators of injustice tomorrow. Outright ban all forms of subjugation, harm, intolerance etc... All is 'good' now. Until one of these notions return and become a common occurrence again, and it inevitably would. So then you would repeat the process. Ad infinitum. Now, please imagine you are something as complex as a planet- a fully functioning, diversely populated eco-system of an unfathomable scale -would you maintain a balance by constantly repeating this purging process? The planet is Superman. We are Superman. You are Superman. You are the planet. Are you to continue berating your Self for your inability to eradicate injustice? How about berating this Self? Am I doing too little to prevent the injustices? Should I become A Superman for the day? Surely I am not doing enough by unmurdering. I am less than worthy if I merely don't harm others. I certainly should be out there stopping other Self's from deviating justice, less am I worthy of existence. The least I should do is publicly condemn such action! Or, perhaps I could direct this portion of valuable energy towards suggesting an alternative. A notion of justice and harmonic cohesion. Perhaps, in realising my franchised status within the whole, I can examplify how beautiful an experience life truly is. When Superman is a bungling idiot, falling over office furniture and constantly correcting his ill-fitting spectacles, he is beautifully benign. Spiritually aligned. He smiles, hurts and feels. When he is the costumed saviour, he is King. revered, applauded and elevated. He is above all. Immortal. THE man. the singular polarised entity, judge and executioner. Surely he is more powerful than the benign version?
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 22:52:00
starfall
My comment is not directed toward you personally Benjamin. It is my comment, borne of my own quest for alignment. I am both beautifully benign and able to fly and shoot beams of light from the eyes. I can, if I will it, eradicate injustice. I can convene my energies towards eradicating the perpetrators and purging all manner of my perceived wrongs. The journey is not the destination though. I am not encircling the world looking for perpetrators to eradicate. I am flying at light-speed. Absorbing light to the eyes. I am elevating, applauding and crowning. I am Superman. Where to fly next, I wonder?
Tuesday 12 January 2016, 23:01:43
naoko
starfall, last night, i ignored the homeless person who lied on his face on the floor....i was too scared to go near him....i passed by as if there was nothing.... how could i refrain from judging myself that i'm cold heart hypocrite???
Wednesday 13 January 2016, 00:00:47
starfall
So go lay beside her/him and place your face to the floor. Are you seeking solidarity? Are you seeking self-abatement? If you threw him/her/yourself to the floor directly, then perhaps you are not as balanced as you could be and might want to ask the internet for repentance, lest your learned sense of moral-superiority be tarnished. If, on the other hand, you feel a socially-contracted obligation to divert your energy towards aiding that person, then do so. Spend every breathing second lifting persons from floors. At least your conscience will be appeased as your precious physical and emotional energy is eventually depleted. A silly proposition, of course. Neither are you going to lift every person that you personally judge to be unfortunate, or are you going to set a benchmark ideology within the observing apathetic. The person is homeless, cold and hungry and may perish a few minutes after you passed them by. At that same moment in your life-experience, a thousand victims of the cancer virus were destroyed. Some folk in the next village to you died in a house-fire. A child was shot to death for being 'unchosen' in the West Bank. Did you choose to lift the homeless person at the cost of ignoring the burning house? Were you on the wrong continent entirely? Perhaps if you'd only had the morality to go to Gaza that day, you could have saved the child by taking the bullet. Or, is this moral compass selective in its direction? Does it pick and choose which injustice is more favourable to special longevity?
Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:43:27
naoko
thank you for your comment, i'm seeking for pure gentleness from myself that i have none....
Wednesday 13 January 2016, 08:41:12
starfall
I fully appreciate the sentiment Naoko, my brother. I feel your frustration succinctly. In creating an alternative reality, whether holistically or internally, we are not ignoring the man face-down on the street. nor are we disregarding the murdered child. We are recognising the necessity for evolving. That instinctual moment of reflection is a lifetime. That millisecond of Self-doubt is a thousand more. Be certain of your convictions and life will become beautiful again. All sentient life-force on this planet is an exchange of energy. Even within one's Self, the heart is exchanging energy with the cognitive computer. Input pain and remorse and expect an equal exchange. The cognitive computer has no desire of emotion, nor does it differentiate between positive and negative polarities. it will process stimulation regardlessly. Feel the heart, my friend. The heart encases the life-compass. It is never mistaken, only the innerstanding of it's response is corrupted and misinterpreted. The programmed mind expects familiar input. Interpret that input as a feeling of guilt and helplessness and the brain will feed all day. It will preside over every other emotional output. Constantly draining energy until a cyclic process becomes a cognitive familiar. Interpret that suffering, however, as a wake-up call, or a necessity for change and the energy flow will become a positive exchange. the brain will become invigorated and desire feeding more positive stimuli. One of the greatest Scientism corruptions is the notion of cognition. We are programmed to believe that the brain is the control mechanism. The brain is nothing more than a computer. It takes input, passes it through uploaded filtering software and outputs logic. The moment we bypass that filtering software and replace it with Self-awareness, it is functioning with perfection.
Wednesday 13 January 2016, 19:32:13
naoko
Thank you so much for your explanation. really appreciate it.
Thursday 14 January 2016, 00:37:00
naoko
i will keep thinking to help those people..cause they're in front of me every day.....thank you.
Thursday 14 January 2016, 00:38:26
Trees
Naoko, I really like you! I appreciate that you feel the suffering around you and I love you for it. By the way, I listened to the Magenta Pixie video which I believe you posted recently. I loved it and am currently listening to a nearly 2 hr talk of hers. She is great! Thank you so much.
Thursday 14 January 2016, 02:57:18
Trees
We are practicing hearing our Spirit. Sometimes It speaks to us through guides, sometimes I hear a voice in my head (or is it my left chest?) with a certain kind of good clear energy-- and I try to practice doing what that voice says, even in the littlest things, like which tomato to pick at the grocery store! Sometimes when I think of doing something, I get a particular relaxing feeling in my body...ah, Spirit. What is Spirit? What is not? By experimenting, acting and making mistakes and GETTING IT more and more often, I am learning discernment. I am building my spiritual muscle with the things of everyday life so I can be steady in manifesting the Big Things, like Planetary Ascension. This is now a major part of my spiritual practice. Learning to discern the Spirit vs. Ego within ourselves is great! And the good thing (this was told to me in a dream recently) is, we don't have to make a lot of decisions! There is just one decision: "Is this Spirit or is it not?" Do that. It makes life so much easier when I can remember that this is the only choice in each situation.
Thursday 14 January 2016, 03:54:57
naoko
Trees, thank you so much, you're so gentle and warm.. really appreciate you're showing so much care to everyone, everything and me! Yes, Magenta Pixie's video was posted by me....yes yes, i watched first 30 mins of that video you're watching and I felt she's real. I will watch to the end. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I think i have just started to aware of everything around me and sometimes get really lost and i feel really sad to see full of suffering which i am in the part of creating, not in the part of helping most of the times....... so your kind words are helping me to realize that I need to listen to the little voice...thank you so much.
Thursday 14 January 2016, 23:51:36
Trees
Naoko, your kind words help me, too.
Friday 15 January 2016, 03:38:45
starfall
Thank you to you both. I thank every soul who determines a positive existence for our species, in the least Darwinian sense I can possibly convey. Your words, as magical creations of your conviction are received as beautiful intention. Your pure thoughts of benevolence and compassion are a reminder of how existence should be. I will you both peace and fulfilment inside and out. Even in our perceived darkness, can we imagine light.
Friday 15 January 2016, 06:31:36
[deleted user]
The previous question I posted was a rhethoric one. The answer to it is quite simple: to take a stand against shit going on in the world instead of divulging into peace-love-new-age-bla-bla. Love is a good thing of course but real good living becomes destroyed by people who DON'T want this to happen! If you disagree I'm sorry to tell you that you have lost your minds.
Sunday 29 May 2016, 23:18:43
[deleted user]
I hesitated first to answer to this because it could be offending but I don't give a shit anymore into this direction.
Sunday 29 May 2016, 23:19:27
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